What is the legal definition of an electrician?

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overskilled said:
Legally in some jurisdictions IIRC - To use the title engineer, you are required to have a bachelor of engineering degree at a minimum and frequently other requirements on the top.
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In the states, that's the way. And as a result engineers are held in similar esteem to other professionals. In the UK, everyone is an engineer. Give a bloke a bucket and tell him to empty porta-loos and before you know it he'll be claiming he's a sanitation engineer :)
 
happyhippydad said:
I have scoured the internet to see if I can find a 'legal' definition of an electrician. I cannot!

I have found this:

What Is A "Qualified Electrician"? | My Local Electrician

which distinguishes between a qualified and non-qualified electrician but a 'non-qualified' electrician still has 'electrician' in the title.

Normal dictionaries cannot be used as they do not go into any detail. The collins dictionary simply states an electrician as:

a person whose occupation is the installation, maintenance, and repair of electrical devices

The Oxford English Dictionary states an electrician is:

a person who installs and maintains electrical equipment

There are a lot of views about who can call themselves an electrician, generally someone who has served an apprenticeship and has the right NVQ's but is there a legal definition?
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Someone who works with Electricity
 
happyhippydad said:
I have scoured the internet to see if I can find a 'legal' definition of an electrician. I cannot!

I have found this:

What Is A "Qualified Electrician"? | My Local Electrician

which distinguishes between a qualified and non-qualified electrician but a 'non-qualified' electrician still has 'electrician' in the title.

Normal dictionaries cannot be used as they do not go into any detail. The collins dictionary simply states an electrician as:

a person whose occupation is the installation, maintenance, and repair of electrical devices

The Oxford English Dictionary states an electrician is:

a person who installs and maintains electrical equipment

There are a lot of views about who can call themselves an electrician, generally someone who has served an apprenticeship and has the right NVQ's but is there a legal definition?
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Someone who works with Electricity
 
This is a bad subject in my opinion, I have done an advanced electrical engineering apprenticeship. City and guilds 2360.2391.2400, cert c. Then an hnd in electrical engineering, then some one who has been on a fast track (boil in a bag) course gets the same title... With an NVQ....
 
Ivan dawson said:
This is a bad subject in my opinion, I have done an advanced electrical engineering apprenticeship. City and guilds 2360.2391.2400, cert c. Then an hnd in electrical engineering, then some one who has been on a fast track (boil in a bag) course gets the same title... With an NVQ....
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Just take and pass the 18th Edition BS 7671 update, and of course the Part P exam, pay the scams an inordinate fee, job done, Electrician off you go.
 
anthonybragg said:
What is a Part P exam?
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You tell me Ant, lots of folk are saying they are Part P qualified, so the assumption is that to become qualified, you need to pass some sort of Exam/Test, ergo The Part P qualification look at some of the profiles "16th 17th or 16th C&Gs and Part P when we are asked to state our Qualifications, it will be C and G number" I'm sure someone will be able to answer.
I for one don't know, when I became qualified I did a 5 years apprenticeship and 3 or 4 C and G courses, the same as you did, so you should be able to tell me because you are younger and more in tune with todays Quals.
Now see what you have made me do, get all riled up, blood pressure through the roof, now where is me Vino, need to calm down and destress. What is the Part P exam? I would give you a dumb, but seeing as you are My Mate I wont OK.
 
trouble these short courses are selling it as a qualification along with the DI course., when all candidates need is to read and understand it.
 
telectrix said:
trouble these short courses are selling it as a qualification along with the DI course., when all candidates need is to read and understand it.
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So Ant, there you go, your question has bee partly answered by someone better informed than me. Quite why these Scams peddle this carp is beyond me, oh no not really to extort money from unsuspecting individuals trying to better themselves, needs stamping on from a great height, not going to happen though, is it? to many sticky fingers in the proverbial pies, in my humble opinion.
 
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telectrix said:
it's a test by the local fire brigade. if you can pee 30ft, and 10ft high, you can be a fireman.
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I remember around 5 years ago (back in the old days) Tel answered one of my questions........... sensibly! :D
 
telectrix said:
trouble these short courses are selling it as a qualification along with the DI course., when all candidates need is to read and understand it.
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Eh? It's like a foreign language when you're sensible. I keep re-reading the post thinking I must have missed the gag!
 
What are you rabbiting on about Ant? Tel is top poster and Charlie is number two, get your facts right Mate. I was trying to be polite but it didn't work I'll be obnoxious to you from now on, so beware for some abuse, you have been warned, I have a certain set of skills, I will find you and I will scathe you, nowhere to hide, damage has been don no turning back now, war is inevitable, watch your back.
 
anthonybragg said:
Why is Pete saying everything twice it must be the mention of Part P that he brought into the conversation.
now wonder he is the top poster of the month every post is a double whammy.
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No you raised the question Ant by asking the question in the first place, think before you post.
 
anthonybragg said:
You brought the subject up in post 65 and by the time you have been having a dig with all your posts you will be top poster by then.:p
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Whoopee Number one. not Number two. Have a dig at Tel he is a couple of hundred more than me, not that I'm bothered unlike you Ant you seem obsessed if I may add.
 
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Plonker 3 said:
The BS7671 says competent person- A person who posses sufficient technical knowledge, relevant practical skills and experience for the nature of the electrical work undertaken and is able at all times to prevent danger and, where appropriate, injury to him/ herself and others.

To me that reads there is no such thing because one person wouldn't be able to be all of the above for every aspect of electrical work.

We all have our fields which we are comfortable to work in, so we usually just stick to them. See the thread earlier about becoming a panel wirer as a example, someone confident in house bashing but has prospects else where, but uncertain what it involves.
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see I read that differently , it says for the nature of the work undertaken .….it does not say all aspects of electrical work ….just to be able to carry out the work safely and compitantly without causing danger to yourself or others
 
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